S3E38: Navigating Grief and Healing from Loss – with Dr. Ken Doka

What does it take to heal and go on after a loss? Does grief follow linear stages, or is it a winding path?   Dr. Ken Doka – an international expert on grief work – is our special guest this week. Dr. Doka shares how to navigate your grief journey on the path to healing.

In this Episode:

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 02:34 Mesopotamian Ghost Busters
  • 10:53 Ghost Pepper Jelly – and the best way to serve it!
  • 13:50 Dr. Ken Doka on the Grief Journey
  • 27:27 Outro

Are There Grief Stages?

Marianne posed this question to Dr. Doka. It can be harmful when you or those that surround you expect grief to follow a linear path. You won’t want to miss Dr. Doka’s perspective. (For more on this topic, we also had a full podcast on the topic of stages of grief: S2E6: The Stages of Grief.)

Author and grief expert Dr. Ken Doka and his book background, "Grief is a Journey"
Dr. Ken Doka talks about grief, and what it takes to heal and go on after a loss

Dr. Doka has keynoted conferences throughout North America as well as Europe, Asia, Australia, and New Zealand. He participates in the annual Hospice Foundation of America Teleconference and has appeared on CNN and Nightline. In addition, he has served as a consultant to medical, nursing, funeral service, and hospice organizations as well as businesses and educational and social service agencies.


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Bronze Age Ghostbusting

A lonely spirit being led to eternal bliss by a lover on a Babylonian clay tablet. White line tracing © James Fraser and Chris Cobb for The First Ghosts, by Irving Finkel. Photograph: The British Museum

Did you think Ghostbusters started with a 4-man team wielding proton packs?

Charlie shared the fun facts with us from a Guardian article about the oldest figure of a ghost, found on a 3,500 year old Babylonian artifact. The image of a sad male ghost was accompanied with detailed cuneiform instructions on how to lure the ghost back to the underworld. Apparently the art of ghostbusting is centuries old!

Dr. Irving Finkel (British Museum) has a bit of fun with his Mesopotamian Ghostbusters video, Irv Ain't Afraid of No Ghost.
Dr. Irving Finkel has a bit of fun with his video, linked here.

The researcher that discovered the link is Irving Finkel, who has been assembling the ancient legacies of the first ghosts and the ghostbusting. You can get his book here or for a deep dive, watch one of his talks below.

The First Ghosts: Most Ancient of Legacies by Dr Irving Finkel

Recipe of the Week

In the spirit of ghosts, we have a recipe that might just ward one off…ghost pepper jelly. It’s one of Marianne’s go-to dishes for funerals, and people rave about it. You can make it, or just buy it in the store, but according to Marianne, the best way to serve is with a brick of cream cheese and wheat thins. Put the cream cheese on a plate, dump half a jar of pepper jelly on it, and serve it with wheat thins.

Here’s a recipe that has a manageable heat level; you can also substitute habanero peppers or increase the ratio of sweet peppers to tame it even more.

Ghost pepper jelly on crackers.  Visit Baking Sense for this ghost pepper jelly recipe and instructions.
Visit Baking Sense for this ghost pepper jelly recipe and instructions.

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